I really like these honey gates. I had an old honey bucket with one like this, but they are hard to find on ready made buckets. My last buckets were round and got stress cracks. Found some square food grade buckets and added the Pierce honey gates. I think the gate being installed on a flat surface will eliminate stress cracks on the buckets. These gates seem to open and close more easily with less dripping. Works great with the Pierce 5 gallon filter bag.